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23 thoughts on “Wed, Aug 19th”

1. Part two of the sleep piece advocates avoiding napping as a way of maintaining overall better sleep. Hmmm not too sure about that now. I think napping can be pretty beneficial. A sneaky hour here or there is fine in my eyes..

   I wish i could get regular sleep from night to night, but it just doesnt happen with shift work.

2. Robbie, I’d disagree with you on the nap front just for me personally, I find if I take a nap I’m absolutely messed up for my nights sleep, find it better to fight the tiredness and wait for the night to have sleep. But I agree on the ol shift work front, rapid switching between nights and days leaves me in a bad way I must admit, would love to get back to normal business hours so I could guarantee 8 hours every night.

3. We both working nights this week then?

4. Heh, no I just go to bed ridiculously late!

5. Interesting that this article came up, when I haven’t really had a good nights sleep in weeks. I’m glad he didn’t mention that you HAVE to have 8 hours sleep or you don’t function. As posted before I’ve NEVER had 8 hours sleep in my life and I function quite well, thank you.

   I do think napping is good and there many, many countries that do this, but I think on reading other articles napping should be limited to about 20mns.

   Anyways, lets hoping I can sleep well tonight

6. Since I started zoning I noticed that I sleep less in total but I drop off a lot easier. Before I was on the zone I would be lying awake in bed for about an hour or so before going to sleep, nowadays I can be out in less than 10 minutes.

   Typically I get 7 hours of sleep a night, usually 23:30 to 7:30. Every second day or so I wake up an hour early for no discernable reason but go quickly back to sleep. At weekends I’ll sleep for 10+ hours if I’ve no reason to be up.

   I function better with 8-9 hours sleep, that much is obvious, but my lifestyle gets in the way of going to bed so early. I found it interesting that she put sleep ahead of nutrition in importance. Personally I wouldn’t be able to sleep the way I do if it wasn’t for my nutrition.

7. I realise that 23:30 to 7:30 is 8 hours before someone smart points it out but I only go to bed at 23:30

8. Ahhh sleep deprivation, I used to think there was nothing wrong with going to bed at 4am and waking up at 8/9am for college until I started to pile on the weight, my memory went to shite and I was losing the will to live/study. (Un)Luckily I’m doing the 9 – 5 grind now, plus after crossfit I’m no more good after 11.00pm.

   Looking forward to the shoulder presses today. Colm, even after some minor shoulder work during the past 3 weeks or so with the snatches, split jerks workouts etc, I can really feel the difference in my (old) injured left shoulder, it seems much more stable. Phew!

9. ah sleep, I don’t function well at all with less than 8 hours. Getting less than 8hrs sleep over the two days of langerfest has me in a heep. I think 9 is the magic number for me, much more than that and I wake up feeling dopey. I hardly ever get 9hrs though because that feels like I’m wasting too much time asleep.

10. Colm or Will you guys mentioned a Saturday were Will would have a chat about the diets a few of the guys are on . Have you set any dates on this yet ?

11. Yep, that’s penciled in for about 12 o’clock this saturday Dale.

12. Cool man ill be there . I won’t be up tonight 4×4 is still in the shop part never came in

13. So I was wrecked after work yesterday and couldn’t face a 5k, so went out and did it this morning – 27:35, am pretty happy with that. I look back at when I started and could not even get 200m out without a rest now I can run 5k, know it doesn’t sound like a whole lot but it means a lot to me being an ex-smoker and (hopefully) a soon to be ex-fatty!

    I’ll be down for the WOD later on, need to work on my pressing!

    Looking forward to the nutrition talk on saturday, I’ll bring along as many recipes as I can find.

14. You never really get away with missing out on sleep… You just build up a sleep debt that your body will eventually recoup. And in the meantime, if you are seriously missing hours of sleep then the cumulative effect can be a bit like being drunk without having had alcohol. Not to mention that if you do have a drink it hits you alot harder.

    My take on napping is that if you miss a full night’s sleep a few days in a row or are doing something really stressful like driving long distances or doing an intensive course then it is excellent.

    If I’m at the end of a week of nights and am really tired then it won’t matter whether I’m napping during the day, when it comes to night time if I have built up that sleep debt then I will sleep.

    I have read a few articles that say that sleeping for less than 20-30 minutes is enough to refresh you, but that going for longer periods can put you into a deeper sleep cycle that might leave you groggy if you wake up. No idea on the science of that, but anecodtally I’ve found it true.

    Incidentally the way I’ve started handling a week of nights (where I work from 10pm to 6am 7 nights in a row) is to sleep from 6.15am or so through to about 12pm … Then get up and stay up for four or five hours. I might train at the beginning or the end of this period, but either way I go back to bed then for another three hours or so. Then up for work…

    This idea of breaking sleep into two shorter blocks might seem counterintuitive. What I used to do was sleep one longer block either straight after I got home, or in the afternoon. I am definitley overall getting more hours sleep the way I am doing it now, and I’m recovering better than I was before after a week of nights. I still sleep ten hours or longer on a monday or tuesday after nights, but that’s not bad.

15. Stephen: 72.5kg
    Tony: 62.5kg
    Double D: 42.5kg
    Peanuts: 55kg (2)
    Tadgh: 40kg
    Eve: 20kg
    Garvan: 62.5kg
    Damien: 62.5kg
    Pixie: 50kg (including a number of epic fails)
    Bobby: 55kg
    Louise: 25kg (2)
    Scott: 50kg
    Pat: 57.5kg
    Big Shane: 55kg

16. Theres a program starting on 532 on sky about the Tarahumara Indians. They’re the ultra running mexicans known for covering 100s of miles at a time.

17. on a happier note my 1RM is now 67.5kg. today was another display of me jumping too much weight. after failing at 67.5 i have nothing in the tank, making 65 impossible.

18. They sound like Silly Bastards to me Tony. I Kid I kid. Sounds interesting but I can’t watch it here. If there’s any good nuggets of info post them up.

    Does anyone know what stations are showing the world athletic championships or if it’s streaming anywhere on the web? The 200m is on tomorrow at 7:35 and I’d fancy Usain Bolt for knocking a few hundredths off his already out of this world WR.

    Nice pressing there Damien by the way. The last time triples came up you were lifting less than me now you’re miles ahead.

19. Sorry about that program folks, turned out to be a silly reality type show of a cross section of “Athletes” who compete against each other and natives in their native sport. Turns out they were a bunch of whinging idiots complaining about everything.

20. Eamonn,

    BBC 2 seems to have most of it.

21. I am similar to Ruairi in regards to naps and night shifts. On my first night shift of the week. (always 12 hrs 7pm – to 7am) My first night shift of the week, i generally get up at a normal time or slightly later maybe 10am and then i will have a nap later in the day for 1 – 2 hours. If i dont do this i will be wrecked for the nighs work ahead.

    So in terms of shift work, i find naps very neccessary!

22. Hey all.. on the subject of the tarahumara .. found this article .. thought it was pretty interestin.

    http://www.ultrarunning.com/ultra/features/world/chapter-i-in-the-beginnin.shtml (WFS)

23. Rob: 38 kg

    Missed the lunchtime class so did it myself afterwards. Need to get more weights for home.