Fri, Jul 17th

Workout of the Day:
L-Seat Progression
5 holds at your stage of the progression. Record total time.

then

5 Rounds for time
Run 200m
15 Pull Ups

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Stick Em Up! The lads working on some shoulder prehab

Stick Em Up! The lads working on some shoulder prehab

Perfectionism – Brian Degenero
How Much Should We Trust Clinical Trials – Seth Roberts

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20 thoughts on “Fri, Jul 17th

  1. The clinical trial link is an interesting one. It brings up a very valid point that medical students typically are not shown how to perform proper research. Don’t get me wrong now, they learn loads of other wonderful things but the ins and outs of how to research something are usually left by the wayside.

    Interestingly it is quite hard to determine whether you should trust a clinical trial without having a knowledge of how to research something yourself. How can you expect to spot a fault if you don’t even know what the faults are? Can you spot the lateness in my third pull of the clean if you’ve never seen weightlifting before?

    Take the anti-creatine stance that the medical community takes these days. Admittedly there has been some research that suggests (not shows, causation and correlation are different) that creatine supplementation in people with existing kidney problems exacerbates their renal dysfunction. However, much of the same research says that normal adults suffer no ill effects from high daily doses (>20g). Creatine supplementation also increases serum creatinine levels which are a marker of renal dysfunction (again they correlate with renal dysfunction but are not necessarily caused by it).

    Doctors then read into this and see two things; creatine increases renal dysfunction and that creatine increases creatinine levels. So they say its bad stuff. A research scientist reads the same article and says the following; creatine possibly exacerbates existing dysfunction though this may be a false positive due to creatinine levels. Normal folks don’t seem to be affected. We need more research.

    I have the upmost respect for the medical community, I want to be a doctor myself, but this stuff bugs me. A research scientist very rarely speaks in absolutes, as they know it is next to impossible to actually “proove” something. Doctors unfortunately, don’t seem to recognise this and simply say no to it. Granted you’ll never have any creatine related problems if you don’t touch creatine, but what if its good for you? What then?

    I don’t really know what I’ve got across here but I’d like to see doctors think a bit more before they give something a bad name. For God’s sake my own mother, who knows next to nothing about sport supplementation, has heard that creatine is bad for you. Damn doctors.

  2. Ah Bobby, admit it, your ma just found your roid stash and you’re trying to baffle her with science!

  3. You’ve got me Tony. I told her all the needles were for my smack habit and she seemed to relax a little. As long as its not creatine right?

  4. Like with anything, and especially things on the internet, you have to be very careful with what you read and take on board as “truth”. Experimental design is probably the hardest thing to do in research, you could waste years trying to get it right unless you have someone who knows what they’re at guiding you. And even then you can still be wrong. This is why there is a peer-review system (although if you’re peers dont know enough either than you have a problem). You also need to know a bit yourself (about stats, experimental design and the field of study) to discern the good from the bad.

    Although it may be difficult to show (rather than proof) i would also wager that genetics plays a key role in this as well. How well does your body respond to to something.

    Finally, the article was originally written in a layman’s website (michael j. fox’s foundation for parkinson’s), so to expect a detailed treatise on the subject is a bit silly imho.

    Anyway, back to training. Was back up at my mates gaf yesterday and was doing farmers carry (about 15m, weights are per hand, 40kg, 50, 60kg. No idea of reps, but a lot) and super yolk (about 10m. 105kg, 125kg, 145kg. Couldnt get 165 off the ground). In between flipped the tyre for a total of 8 reps. Finished off the day with 5 in a row which was rough.

  5. Hi Guys,
    It’s good to be back after the break Bob what a time yesterday.

    Colm thanks a lot for staying behind and giving an extra class much appreciated, I did not think i would get a chance to work out.

  6. Tony – 21, 41, 21; 11:52 as rx’d
    Stephen – 41, 36, 22; 11:32 as rx’d (This guy can now kip)
    John – 32, 37 , 39; 17:17 (Green x 10, short)

  7. Yep Bobby, he was milling them out, a bit of practice and he’ll be doing unbroken sets a la Tom. Now if he could only lift some weights…….oh wait!!!!!!

  8. Damn. He even has my pimp shoes. What have I got left now apart from a varied selection of gates?

  9. bobby .i just realised yesterdays time.was that after the mars chocolate milk?

  10. I think this needs a caption:

    “Following another weak performance, a disappointed Colm called in the firing squad”*

  11. *insults are for comedy purposes only, no offense intended, terms and conditions apply.

  12. Damien, it was before. That Mars was a huge disappointment. You talked it up too much I think. I rank it as a number 4 in the chocolate milk world rankings;

    1. Avonmore Chocolate Milk
    2. Yahoo Chocomilk (from 7-11 in the US, 2 for a buck special)
    3. Marks & Spencers Belgian Chocolate Milk Dessert
    4. Mars Refuel
    5. Malteasers Chocolate Milk Drink

  13. I think the most important question here is – Bobby have you tried the Galaxy Chocolate Milk, I’m not sure if it would break into your top 3 but it is rather good ad should definitely beat both the Mars and the Malteasers.

    And by the way the news of Stephens ability to kip has not made me feel good!

  14. Oh and as for todays WOD, pull-ups and running, what more could Pixie ask for! My two favourites! :)

  15. i think its obvious to everyone if you had the mars drink before the metcon it was soley responsible for your good time.

  16. And perhaps you didn’t shake it enough. The drink contained more of the dissolved material than could be dissolved by the solvent without agitation. Did you know bobby that this known as super saturation. The things you can learn from Will. This could have adversely affected the taste of the drink.

  17. No I meant I did the WOD before the milk, the disappointment would have cost me at least 5 minutes had I tasted it before.

    Galaxy? I wasn’t aware they had broken into the liquid chocolate market, I thought they dealt solely in solid product. I’ll have a look for one.

    Super saturation? I’ll have to look that up.

  18. Jeff – 8:40 (21-15-9 DL/PU)
    Del – 11:41 (15-105)
    Marianne: J, 15, 16 (14:33 RR)
    Rob- 19, 37, 28; 14:23 (4rounds, 10 Push Ups each round)
    Ames – 13, 23, 35; 13:55 (pink x 10)

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