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		<title>By: Davie</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22022</link>
		<dc:creator>Davie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did the Glasgow Half marathon in 1 hour 51mins ...so that guy was nearly twice as fast as me....fecker!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did the Glasgow Half marathon in 1 hour 51mins &#8230;so that guy was nearly twice as fast as me&#8230;.fecker!</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22021</link>
		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 22:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ames: 7 Rounds + 4 Push Ups (elevated Push Ups, Jumping Pull Ups)
Shane 1.0: 6 rounds + 6 pull ups as rx&#039;d
Kyle: 11 rounds + 10 Push Ups as rx&#039;d
Lee: 9 rounds (jumping pull ups)

R*Dawg&#039;s Hungover Total
BS: 110-120-125(f)
SP: 55-60(f)-57.5
DL: 140-150-160 PR!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ames: 7 Rounds + 4 Push Ups (elevated Push Ups, Jumping Pull Ups)<br />
Shane 1.0: 6 rounds + 6 pull ups as rx&#8217;d<br />
Kyle: 11 rounds + 10 Push Ups as rx&#8217;d<br />
Lee: 9 rounds (jumping pull ups)</p>
<p>R*Dawg&#8217;s Hungover Total<br />
BS: 110-120-125(f)<br />
SP: 55-60(f)-57.5<br />
DL: 140-150-160 PR!</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22016</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 20:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will you&#039;re probably right, it goes for athletes across the board really, anyone who&#039;s serious about his/her sport will be respectful of others. They&#039;ll know the dedication involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will you&#8217;re probably right, it goes for athletes across the board really, anyone who&#8217;s serious about his/her sport will be respectful of others. They&#8217;ll know the dedication involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Will Walshe</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22014</link>
		<dc:creator>Will Walshe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 19:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bobby - I&#039;d nearly bet the dismissive comments about endurance athletes you&#039;ve seen were coming from newbies and/or keyboard warriors who duck out on the 10k WODs. You can&#039;t do more than a few of those without gaining a healthy respect for people who are actually good at running. 

You get a lot of tongue-in-cheek stuff like Colm&#039;s &quot;what&#039;s his CFT&quot; up there too, but that kind of thing is just a bit of fun. 

All the genuine crossfitters I&#039;ve met in real life have been extremely down-to-earth, nice people who I can&#039;t picture sneering at the achievements of any hard-training, dedicated athlete.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bobby &#8211; I&#8217;d nearly bet the dismissive comments about endurance athletes you&#8217;ve seen were coming from newbies and/or keyboard warriors who duck out on the 10k WODs. You can&#8217;t do more than a few of those without gaining a healthy respect for people who are actually good at running. </p>
<p>You get a lot of tongue-in-cheek stuff like Colm&#8217;s &#8220;what&#8217;s his CFT&#8221; up there too, but that kind of thing is just a bit of fun. </p>
<p>All the genuine crossfitters I&#8217;ve met in real life have been extremely down-to-earth, nice people who I can&#8217;t picture sneering at the achievements of any hard-training, dedicated athlete.</p>
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		<title>By: Eoghan O'K</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eoghan O'K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:00:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While on the marathon thing thought I&#039;d throw this nugget out,  that aerobic exercise increases insulin sensitivity in your muscles. http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/17/1842
so if crossfitters ran marathons they could eat potatoes! And yes, i did have to ruin the serious discussion. Lack of lifting relatively heavy things has made me unpleasant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While on the marathon thing thought I&#8217;d throw this nugget out,  that aerobic exercise increases insulin sensitivity in your muscles. <a href="http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/17/1842" rel="nofollow">http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/359/17/1842</a><br />
so if crossfitters ran marathons they could eat potatoes! And yes, i did have to ruin the serious discussion. Lack of lifting relatively heavy things has made me unpleasant</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22007</link>
		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great posts guys!</description>
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		<title>By: Robbie</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22005</link>
		<dc:creator>Robbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Colm - Having run a couple of marathons myself, I hope I can see this from both sides of the fence

Since I have started Crossfit, I can see and understand the menatl toughness and drive that is needed to push yourself through most of the metcons, but I also definitely think there is a fear element in running and there are a number of things that can tackle you mentally and physically.... 

Sure. A lot of people complete marathons just to say they have done one and may actually walk large portions of it, but to to many others it is the climax to many months of dedication and sacrifice to achieve their PB.

Have I trained enough to reach my target time?
Will I hit the wall?
Is all this running really worth it?
Why the hell am I doing this?

These are all questions that run through your mind, but, I would definitely say running the 2 marathons I have was worth every second of long runs in the Phoenix park by myself . The sense of achievement, The adrenalin produced by the occasion and definitely a menatl toughness that stays with you and has helped me personally get through other aspects of life... Like &#039;Fight gone bad&#039; On my first day at CF...OUCH!

Im not saying running a marathon is any more of an achievment than doing Fran or Cindy in record time, but like Big Shane said the running industry is  big, so a landmark event like a city marathon is always gonna get massive exposure comapared to the Crossfit Games for example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Colm &#8211; Having run a couple of marathons myself, I hope I can see this from both sides of the fence</p>
<p>Since I have started Crossfit, I can see and understand the menatl toughness and drive that is needed to push yourself through most of the metcons, but I also definitely think there is a fear element in running and there are a number of things that can tackle you mentally and physically&#8230;. </p>
<p>Sure. A lot of people complete marathons just to say they have done one and may actually walk large portions of it, but to to many others it is the climax to many months of dedication and sacrifice to achieve their PB.</p>
<p>Have I trained enough to reach my target time?<br />
Will I hit the wall?<br />
Is all this running really worth it?<br />
Why the hell am I doing this?</p>
<p>These are all questions that run through your mind, but, I would definitely say running the 2 marathons I have was worth every second of long runs in the Phoenix park by myself . The sense of achievement, The adrenalin produced by the occasion and definitely a menatl toughness that stays with you and has helped me personally get through other aspects of life&#8230; Like &#8216;Fight gone bad&#8217; On my first day at CF&#8230;OUCH!</p>
<p>Im not saying running a marathon is any more of an achievment than doing Fran or Cindy in record time, but like Big Shane said the running industry is  big, so a landmark event like a city marathon is always gonna get massive exposure comapared to the Crossfit Games for example.</p>
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		<title>By: Bobby O'Leary</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22004</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobby O'Leary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 16:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment on CrossFitters being dismissive wasn&#039;t aimed at anyone in particular, its just a common theme I see whenever I look at CrossFit websites.

I never said picking shit up was less useful than running but in people&#039;s minds it seems to be that way. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a young lad (man I&#039;m getting old) the other day. He stopped doing the legpress because he feels he has no need to be able to lift large amounts of weight with his legs. 99% of the time this will be true for a lad of his age. Same guy won&#039;t deadlift because he feels he has no need to pick heavy things up. Still benches though, clearly he&#039;s afraid of giant logs falling on him.

It showed me, apart from that he has a bench fetish, that the ability to pick heavy things up is not as ingrained as the ability to run or move. The same guy still uses the treadmill and rowing machine you see. I disagree with marathon running being the pinnacle of fitness but then again we all know my feelings on &quot;fitness&quot; so I&#039;ll leave it out.

On mental toughness. I think how someone views mental toughness is a subjective matter, I played rugby for years and I was able for it so I don&#039;t see it as tough. On the other hand I was never able for long-distance running so I&#039;ve always thought of it as tough. Similarly I enjoy submission wrestling and MMA, both of which could be defined as tough, I don&#039;t see it that way though. See what I mean?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment on CrossFitters being dismissive wasn&#8217;t aimed at anyone in particular, its just a common theme I see whenever I look at CrossFit websites.</p>
<p>I never said picking shit up was less useful than running but in people&#8217;s minds it seems to be that way. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a young lad (man I&#8217;m getting old) the other day. He stopped doing the legpress because he feels he has no need to be able to lift large amounts of weight with his legs. 99% of the time this will be true for a lad of his age. Same guy won&#8217;t deadlift because he feels he has no need to pick heavy things up. Still benches though, clearly he&#8217;s afraid of giant logs falling on him.</p>
<p>It showed me, apart from that he has a bench fetish, that the ability to pick heavy things up is not as ingrained as the ability to run or move. The same guy still uses the treadmill and rowing machine you see. I disagree with marathon running being the pinnacle of fitness but then again we all know my feelings on &#8220;fitness&#8221; so I&#8217;ll leave it out.</p>
<p>On mental toughness. I think how someone views mental toughness is a subjective matter, I played rugby for years and I was able for it so I don&#8217;t see it as tough. On the other hand I was never able for long-distance running so I&#8217;ve always thought of it as tough. Similarly I enjoy submission wrestling and MMA, both of which could be defined as tough, I don&#8217;t see it that way though. See what I mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dunno man.  Cindy&#039;s tough; a true beast of a workout to get through.  However it doesn&#039;t really compare in my mind to Murph.  I say there is absolutely something to be said for mental strength to finish a long workout.

For me a max rep deadlift does not take mental toughness to complete.  Mental focus for sure, but when I&#039;m running a 5k the only thing that keeps me from stopping is determination, and to do that for 3 hrs seems much harder than doing it for 20 min.

I think that this whole CF vs. endurance battle rages on because endurance athletes are consistently held up by the mainstream media as the &#039;fittest&#039; people.  After all CF&#039;ers don&#039;t attack golfers or baseball players.

To me, I have extreme admiration for anyone that reaches the top of their field, even if it is 10m air rifle shooting.  Some I admire for their skill, some for their strength, some for their mental toughness or a variety of combinations.  I have no idea if a marathon is harder than a painstorm but I do know that I can’t run one which means all of those people on Monday are better than me at at least one thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dunno man.  Cindy&#8217;s tough; a true beast of a workout to get through.  However it doesn&#8217;t really compare in my mind to Murph.  I say there is absolutely something to be said for mental strength to finish a long workout.</p>
<p>For me a max rep deadlift does not take mental toughness to complete.  Mental focus for sure, but when I&#8217;m running a 5k the only thing that keeps me from stopping is determination, and to do that for 3 hrs seems much harder than doing it for 20 min.</p>
<p>I think that this whole CF vs. endurance battle rages on because endurance athletes are consistently held up by the mainstream media as the &#8216;fittest&#8217; people.  After all CF&#8217;ers don&#8217;t attack golfers or baseball players.</p>
<p>To me, I have extreme admiration for anyone that reaches the top of their field, even if it is 10m air rifle shooting.  Some I admire for their skill, some for their strength, some for their mental toughness or a variety of combinations.  I have no idea if a marathon is harder than a painstorm but I do know that I can’t run one which means all of those people on Monday are better than me at at least one thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Colm</title>
		<link>http://crossfit.ie/2008/10/28/tue-oct-28th/comment-page-1/#comment-22001</link>
		<dc:creator>Colm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Oct 2008 15:41:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man that was a rant and a half. Urgh, Nestle make Colm Angry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man that was a rant and a half. Urgh, Nestle make Colm Angry</p>
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